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March 1

Talk page discussions ignored

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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A consensus is apparently needed for a requested move. Talk:Ghulam Kadir what do I do if it gets ignored solely because the other editors don't want to? RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 03:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

You follow the advice at the top of the relevant section, RevolutionaryPatriot: "editors can strengthen their arguments, discover new ones, and then try again in a few months to garner consensus for these renames" (my emphasis). So far just one (1) day has gone by. I suggest that you do the strengthening/discovering on your hard drive, and on that talk page (and elsewhere in Wikipedia) keep mum about the matter till May at the earliest. -- Hoary (talk) 08:16, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

But then, logically it'll just happen again. So Wikipedia's name change in this scenario can only be in effect if the User's agree, regardless of Wikipedia's name policy that is effectively irrelevant here. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 08:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

RevolutionaryPatriot, Wikipedia's fundamental decision making process is consensus and in this case, several other editors disagree with you. When it comes to names transliterated from another language using another alphabet, it is often not possible to say with complete confidence that "policy mandates my preferred transliteration". So, when an appropriate time has passed, use your powers of persuasion (as opposed to confrontation) to build consensus for the change that you favor. Cullen328 (talk) 08:43, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia's editors obsessively chase the notion of common name. Wikipedia's fundamental decision making is consensus, only under the pretense of the website's policy being used.

The Naming conventions favour the most used common name, that is definitionally the policy mandating my preferred transliteration.

Your last sentence only makes sense if I didn't type anything at all. It is the duty of the website, Wikipedia to be able to have its policies enforced, even if certain Users disagree with it. This discussion has nothing to do with my duty to persuasion but the duty for a proven course of action to be enforced after an absence of discussion, pretending otherwise is intellectually dishonest. RevolutionaryPatriot (talk) 05:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Rapidly changing IP performing mass PROD of software stubs

Moved to WP:ANI Helpful Raccoon (talk) 21:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

"Bitch" showing on Maps

Resolved

 – Slowking Man (talk) 21:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I figure if it's not someone will be able to point me in the right direction :) Apologies for the crude language in the title!

I was looking at the article for NFC West and noticed a curious entry on the map, next to the marker for the Rams - the word "Bitch". I thought it was just garden variety vandalism that had gone unnoticed so went to edit the article to remove this, however there's no reference to it there.

Looking into it further, it looks like that there's an issue with the map itself - going to the Wikimedia Maps page, at around Zoom Level 6\7, it appears on the map.

I had a look at the Wikimedia Maps pages, and couldn't see a way to report a map issue - despite the only time I've spent in Los Angeles being solely confined to LAX, I am quite confident there isn't an area of LA called "Bitch" and if there is, is it an area of enough significance to show up at such high zoom levels?

Just wondering if there's anyone here who might know what the next steps here might be?

Thanks! Douglas 11:06, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

After looking around for a bit, it looks like this was vandalism on OpenStreetMap, which that map is being loaded from. Community members there already reverted it some hours ago, but it looks like the Wikimedia Maps server had cached the colorful name and displayed it to you. Personally I am not seeing it anymore, so I hope it goes away for you soon. Nyakase🐈‍⬛‍ (talk • guestbook) 11:36, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Oh good, thanks for that! :) I'm still seeing but it might be cached either somewhere on my end. Douglas 12:12, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps there's a Latin grammar school nearby that a helpful person wanted to add to the map, but they accidentally misspelled the name...

Step 3: with "bitch", just drop the "t"
'Cause "Bich" is Latin for generosity!

--Slowking Man (talk) 21:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Android app: graphs in edit history view

Graph shown in edit history view

The edit history view in the Android app has a graph at the top, with no axes shown, no label for what either axis would represent if it were shown, and no indication of scale. (It does however have a pale grey grid.) I'm guessing the x-axis probably represents time, measured in either hours, days, months or years, but what does the y-axis represent? Is it

• size of the article?
• frequency of page views?
• frequency of edits?

Does anybody know? Clearly it's meant to tell me something, and someone took the trouble to program it into the app, so it seems a shame not to have any idea what. Musiconeologist (talk) 19:38, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

@Musiconeologist: Okay, so I had fun, of a sort, spending time pulling threads in the app source code and finally got to the prize at the center. Your answer here: phab:T299181. It's a graph of edits to the article in the past year, by # of edits by month. So you were on track.

If wondering how the heck I found that: I went to the source code repository at Github, and traced the logic flow for displaying that edit history screen, and eventually got to the commit which added a REST handler to fetch the metrics: [1]. Don't mention it! I will say, the code could stand to be a bit more richly commented. --Slowking Man (talk) 05:17, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@Slowking Man Well, it's more fun getting something to work than telling anybody else how it works and depriving them of the fun of working out what weird thing is wrong with it. ;-)
All that discussion of what to do with the extra space, and not one person suggested adding some text like edits by month and the max and min values . . . (I think that's the more useful information—how active the editing is.)
Anyway thanks for tracking that down. It was irritating me each time I looked at an edit history in the app. Musiconeologist (talk) 18:15, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

UK Post office stamp image

Hi Folks!!, Is uk post office stamps images allowed to to be used on Wikipedia. I've seen a few images of stamps posted here and there, some of them seemingly quite recent. These two are from 1965. scope_creep^Talk 23:17, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

c:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United Kingdom#Stamps. Those two are most likely public domain, though it's conceivable they reuse non-PD artwork. Any dating from much later than that are copyrighted for the author's life+70 years, so would only be usable in articles about the specific stamps themselves. —Cryptic 23:46, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

That's good. Thanks for that @Cryptic: scope_creep^Talk 21:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

March 2

Bulk PDF exports?

Is there any way to export every wikipedia article (like a wiki dump) as opposed to xml, which I don't like as much. MiniMikeRM (talk) 00:45, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Are you talking about export all articles available on Wikipedia or a particular one ? Anatole-berthe (talk) 23:08, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

All, I know that you can export one at a time but that would obviously take a while MiniMikeRM (talk) 01:51, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Let's try our best to avoid the XY problem here. Instead, what I'm going to ask you to do is describe what goal you want to accomplish. "I want to take Wikipedia articles, and do Y". Maybe PDF will turn out to not be a good idea for going about what you want to accomplish. --Slowking Man (talk) 05:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Help: Enhance the Wikipedia Page for Marinduque State Univeristy

Hi there,

I am seeking for your assistance to improve Marinduque State University page due to it has already became a university from its college name. But as per review, only few information were added. Hoping for your assistance and contribution from the expert editor and reviewer out there. Thank you. Filipinotayo (talk) 05:47, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@Filipinotayo I'm immediately noticing two issues. Firstly, the article is inconsistent with calling it a university or college. Secondly, the entire "Campus" section is unsourced. Those are the most glaring issues. Ultraodan (talk) 05:59, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Why the arrow mark disappear if I click on the image?

Image here has arrow mark but has red arrow on it.

When I double click on it, arrow mark is gone. Why is that ? HarryOrange (talk) 13:41, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@HarryOrange: The arrow is added on to the Wikipedia article, after the main image has been resized and displayed, using the {{superimpose}} template.

Clicking the main image shows it inits original form on WikiCommons. Bazza 7 (talk) 13:49, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Archiving a citation

I need to archive just one more citation in my article, but the source website (newspapers.com) has blocked me from completing the archive via the Wayback Machine. Numerous attempts to rectify the apparently simple problem with the source site have failed. I otherwise have full access to newspapers.com, so there's no serious issue involved. Could someone please archive https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-pennsylvania-herald-and-york-genera/158594062/ on the Wayback Machine and then post here the resulting archive URL so that I can add it to the article? I really appreciate your help! Tfhentz (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Maintenance tag required on an article, not sure how to go about this.

I'm looking at the Xbox (console) page's modding section and some of the methods mentioned and used are very out to date compared to what is used today.

I would like to put a "needs maintenance" or an "needs updating" banner on this section.

Anyone know how? It's been a while since I've done this.

Thanks,

Urbanracer34 (talk) 16:28, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@Urbanracer34: see {{Update}} and {{Update section}}. It is helpful if you can explain the problem on the talk page and put a link to it to the template. TSventon (talk) 16:43, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Subpage assistance

I've proposed the idea on Wikipedia talk:Vital articles#Create a timeline on a subpage that we add a subpage of a meline of level 3 vital people to Wikipedia:Vital articles, and the idea has reached acceptance. Now I'm wondering what the best way to add it as a subpage under it is, and if I should do anything in addition.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Wikieditor662 (talk) 18:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

March 3

Add image

File:Adam tactical group.svg to Adam Tactical Group I can't because of protection. Zacharpolis (talk) 03:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

But what you can do, Zacharpolis, is explain on Talk:Adam Tactical Group why this should be added and more particularly how it is that this logo is your "own work". This should persuade somebody there who (unlike most people at the "teahouse") understands the issues involved. -- Hoary (talk) 08:10, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

{{PD-UA-exempt}} https://www.facebook.com/Adamtactic/ Zacharpolis (talk) 11:56, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

So, Zacharpolis, you're not the copyright holder. Then start by correcting the mistakes on c:File:Adam tactical group.svg. Once you've done that, make your request on Talk:Adam Tactical Group. -- Hoary (talk) 12:04, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Why don't you wear suit? Zacharpolis (talk) 13:14, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Hoary, don't ping me again. If you don't help. Zacharpolis (talk) 13:15, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Recovery of a now-deleted article?

Hello all, There is an article that was deleted and turned into a redirect, American Communist Party. It was decided to be deleted, with some information moved to the pages for History of the Communist Party USA and Jackson Hinkle. I am interested in salvaging the article and improving it to add it to the mainspace. Is there any way to find the article in any history or junk areas? Help would be appreciated. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

This is the AfD discussion, by the way. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Communist Party -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 16:15, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis: The content has been deleted so only an admin will be able to retrieve it. I suggest asking Ad Orientem, who closed the deletion discussion, on their talk page and presenting any evidence that we should have an article there. TSventon (talk) 16:38, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi PhoenixCaelestis. The community concluded by an overwhelming consensus that the subject did not meet our standards for encyclopedic notability. This of course can change. But I would need at least some evidence that either the situation has changed or that there was evidence of notability that was missed in the discussion. If you can provide some concrete evidence of notability, I would consider restoring the article and moving it into draft space. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Nearly every other American political party has its own page, even ones that only exist in one state or ones that only lasted a handful of years in the 1800s. The ACP has an entry in Wikidata, and has been covered by several small media outlets. One member even won a seat in Orange County, Vermont. Yes, it hasn't been covered by, say, the New York Times or the Washington Post, but it's because there's simply no reason for large national news outlets to report on a frankly eccentric splinter group of a party that's over 100 years old. If you go digging, the information is there. Plus, when the article was initially made, it was pretty much day one of the party's creation and next to no information about it had been released. With lots of time having now passed, I feel it's enough to warrant an article for this political party. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @PhoenixCaelestis. I suggest you find three sources that clearly meet WP:42, and present them to @Ad Orientem. ColinFine (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

PhoenixCaelestis, most people reading this (including Ad Orientem and myself) have other priorities and interests. We're not going to go digging. How about you go digging, and here, in this thread, link to three reliable sources (all of them independent of the ACP) that deal with the ACP in some depth? -- Hoary (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and found five sources that I feel cover the party and meet WP:42.

https://www.thefp.com/p/american-communist-party-maga

https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/07/american-communist-party-launches-as-reconstitution-of-communist-party-usa-several-clubs-deny-inclusion-in-party-declaration/

https://unitedworldint.com/36094-executive-chairman-of-the-american-communist-party-we-are-preparing-for-a-systemic-and-constitutional-crisis/

https://www.repubblica.it/venerdi/2024/11/08/news/elezioni_usa_trump_comunista_vermont_viaggi_da_fermo-423605605/

https://us.politsturm.com/the-essence-of-the-acp

I was also unaware of this until now, but there is an entry for the party on the German Wikipedia. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Communist_Party

Thanks, all. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 21:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis Ok. I am satisfied that there is enough coverage to justify restoring the article and moving it into draft space. I will send you a link once I've finished. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much! -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 22:17, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@PhoenixCaelestis The page has been undeleted and moved to Draft:Communist Party USA. This is not an endorsement of the page or the claims to notability. But I think there is enough to justify recreation so it can be worked on in draft space. I suggest submitting it for review once you think it is ready. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Minor goof, it appears you draftified the full CPUSA article rather than the old ACP article. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't realize. -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 22:28, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I've cleaned up that goof. The restored draft is now at Draft:American Communist Party (2) (Draft:American Communist Party already existed). This feels like a total waste of admin time and effort given that. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:34, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @PhoenixCaelestis. de:American Communist Party has three non-independent sources, and one unreliable one that doesn't even mention the subject. It is therefore of little use in creating an English article. ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

PhoenixCaelestis, please see Draft:American Communist Party. -- Hoary (talk) 22:34, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Edit clash with Pppery (and possible misunderstanding); striking out. -- Hoary (talk) 22:38, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Actually Draft:American Communist Party (2). Draft:American Communist Party was a preexisting draft from 2024. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

If the ACP is described as being part of "the larger MAGA Communism movement", readers may appreciate an article on MAGA Communism that describes the latter as larger than a single "American political commentator and influencer". -- Hoary (talk) 22:50, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Table

Hi,

I just started this list List of Hungarian explorers. You can see the text alignment is "center". Do you have any idea how can I make the alignment as default to "left" but only in the description table? OrionNimrod (talk) 21:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@OrionNimrod: I used {{Table alignment}}.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Thank you very much! OrionNimrod (talk) 22:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

March 4

Block notice problem

I just pblocked User:JohnAdams1800 for two weeks. However, when I used Twinkle to do it, the block notice came out as gobbledy gook (the block itself worked). I reverted myself and tried again, this time using Twinkle to add only the block notice. Same result. I reverted myself again and handwrote the notice of the block. I suspect it's not Twinkle but something wrong on the Talk page, but I'm not good at finding such things, assuming I'm right. Can someone figure out what happened? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:25, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

There was an unclosed <nowiki> tag on the page further above. I've fixed it now. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:00, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, Pppery, should I test it, or is that not necessary?--Bbb23 (talk) 02:06, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Feel free to, but I'm fairly confident that was all. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:08, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, Pppery, couldn't resist. :-) Works perfectly now.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:14, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Best way to include a graph?

I think the graphs in this BBC article would be useful to include in Second Trump tariffs or First Trump tariffs. What's the best way to include them in line with Wikipedia's fair use policies? Take a screenshot of it, recreate the graph myself, etc.? Is there a place on Wikipedia where other people will recreate graphs on request? satkara❈talk 03:01, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Your Link isn't working Moxy🍁 03:05, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Whoops, thanks. Here: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn48q3150dxo satkara❈talk 04:15, 4 March 2025 (UTC)